Tom Pickering, APSA  


Orange Mum by Tom Pickering, APSA

November 2021 - Orange Mum

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Specs: D5000, Tamron 60mm Macro, F4, 1/1.4s, 1:1, Macro Rig

Went with a single 1:1 shot of a store-bought mum. Basic processing for cleanup in Affinity Photo. Looking to do something like Carol does so well and very much looking for suggestions. Help!!!


17 comments posted




Carole Kropscot   Carole Kropscot
(Group 12)
Hi Tom - Peeking in from Group 12. I photograph flowers a lot! First, you need to use the smallest aperture you've got. Then, focus on the area you want in sharpest focus by using whatever your camera has to magnify that area. Tripod or other sturdy support. And, store-bought flowers are wonderful!   Posted: 11/12/2021 14:29:18
Tom Pickering   Tom Pickering
I wasn't exactly looking for everything in focus, which is why I went with the largest aperture for that lens. Just not sure what will be the best approach to soften the areas that aren't in focus even more. Carol Sheppard is good at that. I'm used to going for everything in focus, especially doing focus stacks, but this time I thought it would be interesting to take a different approach.   Posted: 11/12/2021 14:58:44
Carole Kropscot   Carole Kropscot
(Group 12)
My theory is to take the sharpest image and then blur any desired areas in post-processing. That way I can decide later on what area I want to be the focused part.   Posted: 11/12/2021 15:11:53
Tom Pickering   Tom Pickering
Guess that makes sense. I'm obviously new to artistic macro images. d;¬{D   Posted: 11/12/2021 15:22:02
Tom Pickering   Tom Pickering
Here's the same image, shot at f45 and 4 seconds (unprocessed):   Posted: 11/12/2021 15:11:40
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Carole Kropscot   Carole Kropscot
(Group 12)
Yes, now you can play around with blurring, darkening, lightening, any parts of the flower until you get an artistic look you like.   Posted: 11/12/2021 15:13:46
Tom Pickering   Tom Pickering
Gotcha.   Posted: 11/12/2021 15:22:45
Carole Kropscot   Carole Kropscot
(Group 12)
Looks like a fun candidate for twirling, too!!!!   Posted: 11/12/2021 15:15:50
Tom Pickering   Tom Pickering
Hmmm. Not done much of that, but I can envision it now that you point it out.

That's my problem, coming up with artistic ideas for images.   Posted: 11/12/2021 15:23:39



Carol Sheppard   Carol Sheppard
Your crop really made this image for me, Tom (and thanks for the compliment!). The slight vignetting helps to frame the center spot, which looks mysterious and gives a come hither feel. The leading lines created by the swirling petals feel perfect to me. My only suggestion (and its one I have also gotten) is that those few petals on the right are blurry and distracting overall. I would try just a minute change of your position to fix it. Your second posted image does the trick! Now crop in, vignette, and "Bob's your Uncle." Like this image very much!   Posted: 11/13/2021 10:31:09
Tom Pickering   Tom Pickering
Bob's your uncle??? That's a new one on me. Care to fill me in?   Posted: 11/13/2021 14:43:48



Carol Sheppard   Carol Sheppard
Oh, btw, focus stacking is another thing to try.
  Posted: 11/13/2021 10:31:45
Tom Pickering   Tom Pickering
That's what I typically do. Trying to learn new things. This old dog I think is scared of new tricks. d;¬{D   Posted: 11/13/2021 14:45:20



Stuart Ord   Stuart Ord
I'd comment that the f45 picture is, not surprisingly, somewhat less sharp in the in-focus areas than the f4 one. If I couldn't get the depth of field that I wanted (and there's nothing stopping us from taking several photos at different aperturesto decide between later) in one exposure, I'd focus bracket. Then, you could then choose which exposures to stack to get what you want. But to be honest, I prefer the f4 and would still work on it in Affinity with the blur tool or a mask and a Gaussian blur layer if that's the effect you were seeking.   Posted: 11/17/2021 16:20:16
Tom Pickering   Tom Pickering
As you know, I'm no stranger to focus stacking, so I know I could get everything in focus, but that wasn't my goal here.

I actually took a shot at every f-stop as an experiment, and decided the widest capture had more potential to get close to the look that Carol gets with her images. I was just not sure which direction to go, but will certainly experiment further.   Posted: 11/18/2021 00:01:36
Stuart Ord   Stuart Ord
Yes, indeed, we are familiar with your excellent stacks.

I don't usually take at different apertures, but it's a good idea to, as the LCD screens in the camera are a poor way to judge.

I'd agree, f4 is pleasing and going in Carol's and Charles Needle's direction, which I like. f2.8 better! But I know why not. Although, being full frame, f4 is similar to my Olly's f2.8 in terms of DoF. In the past we'd have been judiciously smearing a UV filter with vaseline! No reason not to now, of course.   Posted: 11/18/2021 03:11:22
Tom Pickering   Tom Pickering
Oh, but the cleanup of vaseline from the filter doesn't sound like fun. d;¬{D   Posted: 11/18/2021 22:24:51



 

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