Ed Ogle  

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I'm happy to be in the group. I'm new to Digital Dialog, but here goes!

Got up very early one very cold January morning and went up into Rocky Mountain National Park to catch the sunrise. I wanted to catch the sun beams as the sun came up just over the ridge and I wanted lots of landscape in the foreground. I don’t really all the details of taking this photo but I believe it was using HDR mode on my camera because there is no associated RAW file. So other than HDR mode, the camera settings were:
f/22 24mm 1/40 second ISO-400 Exposure Bias -0.7

Post Processing was with Camera RAW in Photoshop (I don’t do Lightroom)

This round’s discussion is now closed!
15 comments posted

Brenda Fishbaugh   Brenda Fishbaugh
Welcome, Ed! I love the image and F22 was a good choice to get the God's rays. I love everything, except it still seems a bit dark in front of the sun. Perhaps a big oval radial gradient in front of the sun over the dark trees and bring up the exposure and a bit of yellow might be worth a try.

  Posted: 05/04/2023 20:31:52
Ed Ogle   Ed Ogle
The problem is, is that there are these spots that show up. I forget what these are called but I understand that they are artifacts from the actual sensor chip and all cameras do this in situations like this. Here is an example, attached...   Posted: 05/04/2023 22:40:39
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Robert Schleif   Robert Schleif
Your original image has those spots, but your final image doesn't seem to. Do you know what was done to suppress them? I think that they are considered flare, and I think that they generally come from reflections between lens elements and also off the supporting lens barrel.
I was able to do pretty much as Brenda suggested except that I left the sky and sun alone. The result is even more stunning than your posted image. I'll let you incorporate the suggestions you choose and post that rather than me posting a rendition using Brenda's and my ideas.
If this is sunrise, you must be on the Western side of the the park and Continental Divide? If so, how did you get there, were you staying on the west side of the mountains?   Posted: 05/05/2023 12:08:06
Ed Ogle   Ed Ogle
Well what I did was use the spot healing brush in Photoshop where I could plus I played with contrast, clarity and dehaze to make them less viable. They are still there in the final image if you look closely. For me, this is the sort of image that I try to capture but never know how it's going to turn out until I really look at it.   Posted: 05/06/2023 22:31:24

Jim Hagan   Jim Hagan
The image is very interesting with a nice sunrise. However, I feel the tree on the right side of the image is distracting. So, in my revision I cropped out that portion of the image and increased the contrast.   Posted: 05/06/2023 09:06:52
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Ed Ogle   Ed Ogle
I like your crop better than what I came up with. I like square crops a lot.   Posted: 05/06/2023 22:32:54
Jim Hagan   Jim Hagan
Ed, if you divided an image into thirds (both horizontal and vertical) where those lines cross are called golden mean points. An image looks more pleasing if a key element of an image is placed at one of those intersecting lines. Notice that in my crop the sun is at one of those points.   Posted: 05/07/2023 05:25:57

James Troeger   James Troeger
I really like your image Ed!

I had been contemplating what I might suggest with this one for the past few days. The flaring from your lens can be very distracting if brightened too much.

More pop from both contrast and color saturation is what I was going to suggest ... then I logged on this morning and saw what Jim did with a rework yesterday... and I really like what he did. There is nothing more I can offer than what he's already done with it.

Great starburst from using the narrow aperture!   Posted: 05/07/2023 10:33:14

Terry Walters   Terry Walters
Hi Ed, welcome to DD78.

This feels too dark for the height of the sun, so I used camera raw to warm up the image, and lighten it too.

For me the moment was just before the sun rose enough to be burnt out, so I moved it down a bit but kept the lovely rays from the starburst effect.

  Posted: 05/08/2023 11:08:12
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Ed Ogle   Ed Ogle
I re-process this image starting over from the original RAW file and came up with this. I incorporated most all the suggestions from the group.   Posted: 05/11/2023 15:16:42
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Sunil Mehta   Sunil Mehta
Welcome to the group.
I liked this version.
Great image and well processed.   Posted: 05/11/2023 21:28:12

Brenda Fishbaugh   Brenda Fishbaugh
Wow, nice to see all the suggestions for Ed's gorgeous image! Ed, did you happen to use your lens hood when you took the pic? Lens flare seems to show up a lot when my lens is dirty (dust and water spots get BIG with the sunlight) or when I have the lens hood off.

Personally, for me, Terry's 5/11 image is the most attractive, although I'd lower the bright yellow.

Using Ed's 5/11 image, I just added a brush and brushed streaks with a little exposure and yellow temp slider. And I also added a few "spots" of just yellow. I liked how clouds of mist showed up near the mountains in the back. I lightened some random spots in the clouds and the snow. I've added a screen shot of my two brushes, to give you an idea. It might not be what you are looking for, but might be what you would want for another image.   Posted: 05/18/2023 08:11:15
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Ed Ogle   Ed Ogle
Good question about a dirty lens. My lenses always seem to be dirty and I have a protective UV filter on them as well. That could be it. It was snowing that morning so it's likely there could have been water drops on the lens.

I think Terry's version is better than my original, but it seem a little over saturated for my liking.

I don't exactly see what you are talking about with adding yellow, but I will play with that. I don't use LR so I'm not really familiar with the user interface.

I like the idea of doing screen shots of the whole edit window when giving feedback. I'll start doing that myself from now on.   Posted: 05/18/2023 15:06:50
Brenda Fishbaugh   Brenda Fishbaugh
Do you use Camera Raw with Photoshop? It's exactly the same controls as Lightroom. Happy to do a quick zoom and show you, but you can see where I overdid some yellow dots on purpose in the bottom right corner.   Posted: 05/18/2023 17:03:47

Brenda Fishbaugh   Brenda Fishbaugh
You can see my "brush dots" and my two masks in Lightroom in this screen shot.   Posted: 05/18/2023 08:14:19
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