Kathryn Delany, QPSA
November 2023 - Bear
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200-600mm lens @ 338mm; ISO 500; f/11; 1/2000s
This was taken at dusk with rim lighting conditions. My question is does this work as a composition and image. I wonder about the gull on the right.
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11 comments posted
I am not sure about the bird on the right? Was this an added part of the image?
The bear and the action of splashing water is the strong part of your capture. I like it. There is another thought of how much size to you want from the photo? A thin white line would help me and keep my eye in the image. Jerry Posted: 11/07/2023 10:28:53
The bear and the action of splashing water is the strong part of your capture. I like it. There is another thought of how much size to you want from the photo? A thin white line would help me and keep my eye in the image. Jerry Posted: 11/07/2023 10:28:53
Kathryn Delany
The bird is part of the original image, my question was whether it is value added to keep it in the composition. Reading your response Jerry, and Vincent's - it's unnecessary to the story. Again I forgot the white border line!
I agree that cropping it out makes for a more dynamic and stronger impactful image. Thank you. Posted: 11/10/2023 12:02:38
I agree that cropping it out makes for a more dynamic and stronger impactful image. Thank you. Posted: 11/10/2023 12:02:38
Very strong image: bear in action and splashing water is not burnt, and is even well lighted.
For the gull, I have the same question as Jerry.
It is part of the image: ok, and keep it. This is the reality.
It has been added: not necessary for me. The bear is the subject and is perfect alone. Posted: 11/10/2023 11:52:04
For the gull, I have the same question as Jerry.
It is part of the image: ok, and keep it. This is the reality.
It has been added: not necessary for me. The bear is the subject and is perfect alone. Posted: 11/10/2023 11:52:04
Kathryn Delany
Thanks Vincent. the gull is part of the original capture and not an add on. Thanks for backing up Jerry's thoughts here. Posted: 11/10/2023 12:03:35
I don't feel the gull is necessary. With it in, it "changes" the story. Either way works for me. The action you captured here and the splashing water make for a great "nature" photo. Can you bring up the exposure or add more detail in the bear with a levels or curve adjustment? Posted: 11/12/2023 12:00:16
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Ken nice idea I will give it a try. There is some detail there, though it is shot with rim light in mind and exposed for the light vs the bear. Posted: 11/12/2023 13:40:20
The question's is, What are you intending to do with the images. If you want to enter in competitions as a pictorial image then remove the Gull as you have done in the second version. But don't be tempted to enter as NH. If you want to use as natural history then go square format and crop the Gull. For me I would use this image as a deep monochrome image as the depth of the bear and the splashes of the water hold well and make for a great deep monochrome image. Posted: 11/14/2023 07:35:12
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Thanks Paul I would probably crop it and enter is a an open monochrome image if I do use it for competition. Taking it out definitely adds to the impact and stronger composition. Posted: 11/14/2023 12:53:15
I agree with everyone, the gull is not necessary to your story. With the gull removed, there is more emphasis on the splash on the right and the rim light on the left. I cropped in and lightened the highlights on the left, increasing the Rim Light. What do you think? Posted: 11/15/2023 13:03:17
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Fran this works I agree, and increasing the highlights does as well. One can always push things a bit further in black and white I think. Thanks for your feedback Posted: 11/15/2023 14:33:22
The rim lighting works great on the right side of the bear and through the water all of which make this a strong image with great action. As for the gull, if the bear were heading its way it might work as part of the story, as is I think it detracts.
Wonder also if more detail can be pulled out from the bear on its left side, it is a bit of a black hole. Would not take much, just a bot of detail.
Great catch. Posted: 11/15/2023 15:01:33
Wonder also if more detail can be pulled out from the bear on its left side, it is a bit of a black hole. Would not take much, just a bot of detail.
Great catch. Posted: 11/15/2023 15:01:33