Jennifer Doerrie  


Ruby crowned kinglet by Jennifer Doerrie

July 2021 - Ruby crowned kinglet

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Ruby Crowned Kinglet

I didn't realize just how many photos of birds I took during the pandemic until I started trying to find images that were not of birds. For those of you who are not fans of birds, I beg your forgiveness. This kinglet has nice, sharp feathers, but I'm concerned that in converting it to monochrome, I may have the tones of the head too similar to those of the background. Is there enough separation for you, or should I work on that some more? It also would have been nice if it had perched somewhere other than on the large, ugly water hose, but I felt the image seemed unbalanced when I cropped out most of that and left only a thin part of the black hose at the bottom of the frame. In fact, do you think need even more background below the hose?


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9 comments posted




Russ Butler   Russ Butler
Wow, this is a striking image for me, it's sharp, composition is good & impact is nice. The BW conversation works for me. Your focus in awesome. My suggestion is crop out the empty space below the hose & if possible the increase the contrast to separate the birds back. Also, add a thin silver border. What do you think of this version?   Posted: 07/07/2021 10:41:48
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Jennifer Doerrie   Jennifer Doerrie
Thanks for your thoughts. It seemed to me that cropping the part underneath and into the hose made the bottom of the image very dark and heavy feeling, but others seem to think that works, so perhaps I need to reconsider. The suggestion to add a border might work for printing, but I find that for some reason, digital projection often cuts off one edge of the border, so I generally do not add them to my digital images unless I know the projection will be on a black background and I need to separate a black background in my image from the projecter's background. Do you usually use silver framing for monochrome images? If I do add a stroke edge frame, I generally use white or black with monochrome, but I suppose silver/gray could work in some situations, too.   Posted: 07/09/2021 21:41:55



Wes Odell   Wes Odell
Another option for the background is to make it lighter. I did a quickie with the Magic Wand so the edges didn't come out properly, nor did I do below the hose. Very nice capture image of the bird.   Posted: 07/07/2021 11:19:15
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Stephen Levitas   Stephen Levitas
Let's see your original. I would like to take a crack at conversion also, since I have been doing a lot of that with my PS Elements presets.   Posted: 07/07/2021 18:22:12
Jennifer Doerrie   Jennifer Doerrie
Oy! Here is what came out of the camera, although I did resize it to post here.
  Posted: 07/09/2021 21:33:53
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Stephen Levitas   Stephen Levitas
I have no idea if this is any better or not, but I will toss it into the mix for discussion. I somehow managed to lose the catch light in the eye :(   Posted: 07/10/2021 21:04:57
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Tom McCreary   Tom McCreary
The bird is very sharp, and you even have a catch light in the eye. I like your conversion, and I think that the bird has plenty of separation from the background. I like Russ's suggestion to crop off below the hose, then you don't know that it is a hose.   Posted: 07/09/2021 19:10:15



Jennifer Doerrie   Jennifer Doerrie
It occurs to me that I also could make the hose thinner, although I've not done a good job of that in this example. Would that help, or is it better to just crop into it as others have suggested?   Posted: 07/09/2021 22:00:55
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Diana Magor   Diana Magor
I have a problem with this one. I like the delicacy of the colour image and i think some of that is lost in all the conversions to mono. It is not suitable for nature comps because of the pipe, but it is not very pictorial either because of the heavy black pipe. The feather detail is very good. I like Steve's dappling effect kept in the background, but I don't think it will be right for comps.   Posted: 07/12/2021 09:17:37