Bill Foy  

Artist and Subjects by Bill Foy

May 2020 - Artist and Subjects

May 2020 - Bill Foy


About the Image(s)

This image was made last fall in Venice, Italy on one of my many walks around the city. I like catching artists at work. I preferred the monochrome version because I didn't think the color added much to the image. Nikon D500, Tamron 18-270mm lens @ 18mm, f/8, 1/800, ISO-500, handheld.

14 comments posted

Beverly Caine   Beverly Caine
I, too, much prefer the monochrome. I am assuming from your commentary that the artist is the subject. Based on that, I feel that the building is overpowering the subject. Technically the image is very well done, just a couple of takes on the artistic result. I am going to offer two different tweaks for your consideration.   Posted: 05/08/2020 20:27:28
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Beverly Caine   Beverly Caine
  Posted: 05/08/2020 20:28:49
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Bill Foy   Bill Foy
Bev, the reason for the wide view is because I felt the statue had to be included in the image. I positioned myself behind the artist to include it.   Posted: 05/20/2020 10:58:59

Ed Tepper   Ed Tepper
I like the story you're trying to tell and it's interesting to me to see the artist painting and what his subject is. I like your crop (16:9?, very cinematic). I think seeing the entire scene gives the photo the sense of place it deserves.

I like the color version much better than the B&W version as you have presented them. To me the B&W version is very flat and uninteresting. I think to make it work you'll need to find a way to add much more contrast probably using local adjustment brushes rather than the global contrast slider. To me the muted colors in the color version adds that contrast and is much more pleasing to look at. The sky in the B&W version looks dull. In the color version there looks like a little blue in there that you might be able to pull out more, especially if you shot in RAW.

Bottom line is that you need to go back to Venice to do this over. I'll carry your camera bag <LOL>. Seriously, I think that if you gave the color version some TLC, you'd likely be pleased with what you create.   Posted: 05/08/2020 22:23:10
Bill Foy   Bill Foy
Thanks Ed. I've been to a lot of places in Italy and can't think of one that I wouldn't return to - Venice would be very high on the list (the bag's heavy but you're welcome to tote it!)

I'm going to give your suggestions a try and see what happens. I'm not anywhere near as accomplished with post-processing as you.   Posted: 05/20/2020 11:03:25

J. Lanning Smith   J. Lanning Smith
I agree with Ed about the story this image tells, and shooting from behind an artist to see the scene being painted is one of my favorite things to do too. I have several images where I've done just that. I also agree with Ed about the placement of the artist. I think the subject is the scene being painted and not the artist, so, I think your placement is right on this.

Personally, I prefer your choice of doing it in black and white; I don't think color adds anything to the image. But I agree with Ed that more contrast is needed. The people don't stand out enough, and I think they should in an image like this. I think an increase in their contrasts would make a big difference.

Also, I thought the sky was kind of bland. I'm wondering if there might be some detail in the sky that you could bring out in this image?

Overall, I like the image.
  Posted: 05/09/2020 14:08:53
Bill Foy   Bill Foy
Thanks, Jim. The sky was blah and it wasn't too long after I left this area that the rains began.   Posted: 05/20/2020 11:05:42

Victor Dallons   Victor Dallons
Artists at work are to me interesting subjects. Here I see the artists painting of the scene before us, but at a slightly different perspective, with the statue of the horse being more central to his composition. I also enjoy the architecture of the columns and arches on the building before the painter. The whole scene comes together well.

I perceive that you exposed for the sky since it is not blown out and there is some detail hidden there. I suggest that you try darkening the sky to reduce the impact of the bright area in that part of the image and to add some detail and mood there. I think this would allow you to brighten and add contrast to the rest of the image to counteract the flat lighting in that area. I think that darkening and adding contrast to the pavement in the lower part of the image would improve balance and could provide a subtle "shade line" to guide the eye from the statue back down to the painter. Since the painter is a main subject, I would lighten him up a little to draw more attention to him. Also, my preference would to see the complete arch above the door in front of the painter; with the sky darker you can include more at the top of the frame without more of a bright area in the upper right.   Posted: 05/10/2020 11:23:26
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Bill Foy   Bill Foy
Thanks, Victor. You, like Ed, are much more advanced that I when it comes to post-processing. I'll try your suggestions and see what happens.   Posted: 05/20/2020 11:10:09

Karen Johnson-Nieuwendijk   Karen Johnson-Nieuwendijk
I like the idea of capturing an artist capturing a scene and agree that altho the artist is a main character, the scene is the main subject. I like the black and white better, but the color hasn't enough color contrast to make a good b&w without work on the photo. I think that Victor's suggestions make a much better story and photo as it brings attention to what the photo is about and brings more life into it.   Posted: 05/11/2020 15:18:42
Bill Foy   Bill Foy
Thanks, Karen.   Posted: 05/20/2020 11:10:53

Carol Sheppard   Carol Sheppard
The perspective from behind the painter works it's strength on the scene and the story. The monochrome treatment and the crop are also very strongly supportive of this image. I really enjoy it just as is!   Posted: 05/15/2020 22:05:40

Bill Foy   Bill Foy
Thanks, Carol.   Posted: 05/20/2020 11:11:17

Beverly Caine   Beverly Caine
Here's another suggestion for you...not my finest editing, but just a quick idea for another thought.   Posted: 05/20/2020 11:49:15
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