Bill Foy  


Under a Tuscan Sky by Bill Foy

January 2020 - Under a Tuscan Sky

January 2020 - Bill Foy

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This image was made a few years ago in Montalcino, Italy. I recently subscribed to the Photography package from Adobe and this is my first submission that is using Photoshop. I find Lightroom a bit more intimidating so it'll be a while before I tackle that software. I cropped the image, then adjusted it using the dehazing tool and, finally, adjusted the Blacks, Whites, Shadows and Highlights. Nikon D300s, Sigma 10-20mm lens @ 20mm, f/22, 1/50, ISO-200, handheld.


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8 comments posted

Ata Kemal Sahin   Ata Kemal Sahin
Yes Bill, Tuscany Valley is really a breathtaking area and the villas are exceptional. I'm a wine lover and have been there many times as a grape harvester. Regarding your photo, -frankly speaking- colored one is better as valley means green:) If I say something for B/W version, you cropped a lot and the sky is so grainy if you did not especially edit like that. As your camera has a light-hungry APS-C sensor, a wider aperture - faster shutter could be a better adjustment, but the haze in far valley and peaks is a problem. Wider aperture - evaluative metering is good for the half bottom of pic, but your f22 is still not enough to dim light in top half of pic. If you try to eliminate haze / highlights by using edit programs, natural grains-noise come! It's a chicken-egg story:) Alternatively, if you may give up the sky, far valley can be seen better. I'll try to re-edit for you. Unfortunately, there's still no technology to apply two separate exif for the same shot:) Possibly a partial cloudy weather and a different capturing time may give a better result ie under same brightness on entire valley.   Posted: 01/05/2020 06:23:25
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Bill Foy   Bill Foy
Thanks, Ata. One of things I've learned recently is that a wide angle lens is probably not the right tool for every landscape image, and f/22 is probably not the right aperture.   Posted: 01/23/2020 14:46:29

Arne Skinlo   Arne Skinlo
A well composed image. I have been in the area, and I love Brunello de Montalcino!

I agree with Ata about the grain and use of camera settings. To me, the haze is OK in this case since that is how this area is and it gives a good depth of field.   Posted: 01/14/2020 01:29:44

Angela Chan   Angela Chan
What beautiful scenery ! ! ! As I said before, I am a sunny person and prefers to see the bright side of thing.
I like the original cropping because I think that the lovely bright sky is very important to scene...it broaden our horizon.
The darkness of the foreground is an artistic choice but I would leave it brighter to show more detail.
The developed module of Lightroom is actually the same as CamerRaw in PhotoShop.
The bright sky/dark foreground dilemma can be easily solve with (Gradulated filter ) in either LR ( Lightroom ) or ACR (Adobe Camera Raw ).
Do not be afraid of LR or ACR. They are the core of these editing system. I use them for at least 80 % of my workflow before going into PS to remove the garbage can or other work.
I used to set up editing group for LR, PS and PSE (PhotoShop Element) in my local camera club so I do use editing a lot.
There are lots of free Youtube educators that are excellent in helping . You do need to master the basic before you can tackle luminosity mask or the like.
As for aperture, the most frequent time I use f22 is in macro photography ( I also belong to a macro group ). The general golden aperture for landscape is f8 to f11...with focus at around 1/3 into the scene. A higher aperture number produce diffraction that soften the image. If the image is too bright at that aperture, increasing the speed will decrease exposure and prevent blown out highlight.
Love the composition and I really like the detail in the hill. I know that all of us had said a lot but they are only meant to tell you our point of view as a more experienced editor.
We all just want to help . If you like me to recommend some good youtube educator please do not hesitate .
Keep shooting and have fun ! ! !


  Posted: 01/14/2020 11:20:20
Bill Foy   Bill Foy
Thanks, Angela. I was looking for a lot of commentary on this image (and for subsequent submissions) simply because of your collective experiences with LR & PS. I belong to five groups in PSA and I've asked everyone to critique my post-processing. You should feel free to let me know about YouTube sessions that you think would be helpful - 404primrosebill@gmail.com.   Posted: 01/23/2020 14:54:08

Guy Davies   Guy Davies
(Group 4)
Bill, Tuscany is one of my favourite locations and you have found a nice composition. The foreground is a bit drk but there is a nice simple way in Photoshop to rectify this. First of all, duplicate the image layer so you have a new layer to work on. Next, go to the menu at the top and select Image>Adjustments>Shadows/Highlights. Accept the default setting of Shadows 35 and Highlights 0 and all the other defaults. This will restore a surprising amount of detail in the dark foreground. You may then want to darken the image slightly using a Curves or Levels adjustment layer. Compare the result with the original simply by switching off the modified layer and the Curves or Levels adjustment layer. One word of warning. Don't be tempted to mess with the Highlights slider in the Shads/Hlts adjustment as this usually introduces haloes.   Posted: 01/16/2020 07:46:06
Bill Foy   Bill Foy
Thanks, Guy. I will try your suggestions and see if I can get the results you describe.   Posted: 01/23/2020 14:56:10

David Henderson   David Henderson
Hi Bill, if this is your first go with Photoshop well done. As Angela stated there are heaps of YouTube sites that you can go to that will show you how to use the basics of photoshop.
As for the picture there is nowhere to draw your eye, you need to brighten the town so that your eye travels from there to the valley.   Posted: 01/22/2020 01:18:46