John Meiers  

 Rim Teepees by John Meiers

April 2021 - Rim Teepees

About the Image(s)

Nikon D750
Nikon 28-300mm
ISO 200
No circular polarizer that I can remember.
Tripod was used.

Native American War Memorial to their veterans. Located on the rim in Billings MT

Taken about an hour after the moon had risen. This was best time to capture the multi colored teepees with the moon in the background.

Post processing done in LR Classic. Adjustments to exposure, contrast, clarity, sharpness etc.

6 comments posted

John Meiers   John Meiers
looking at my photo. Maybe I did have a Circular polarizer on. I am seeing a screen affect. Was not there in LR.   Posted: 04/01/2021 20:06:53
Damon Williams   Damon Williams
Hey John, welcome to DD 60.
Strong first submission, IMHO. Composition uses repeating patterns in about the best way imaginable, and that creates a sense of depth. Exposure works well for me generally, with lots of color in the teepees, and just enough detail in the foreground to give context. Your extended shutter speed gives some sense of the wind whipping through the pennants atop the teepees. DoF is spot on too, to me. I think color harmony is great as well.

If you can get rid of the city lights at the right edge of the frame, I would.

When creating it, it might have been possible to exposure bracket so that the moon might have had detail, and then you could exposure blend. But we have what we have. HOWEVER, there's nothing saying that you couldn't Ps in your own moon, complete with lunar detail, which in this case I'm not sure I'd really call cheating. Think about it.

And, I gotta tell ya, I've never seen a pattern like this superimposed on an image before. And, I suspect that it's not a function of a CP filter. I say that because a) when describing the image you made it a point to say that there wasn't a CP, telling me you're conscious of when you use one and when you don't, and b) notice how the pattern appears to be oriented perfectly vertically and horizontally? That seems very unlikely that the CP would line up perfectly like that. Now, I admit that I don't know the functional details of the average CP that well, but this coincidence seems...well, uncanny. I suspect some other phenomenon (moire?). I'd like to learn more about what's going on here.

Anyway, great to have you, and I'm eager to see more nice work from you going forward.
  Posted: 04/04/2021 17:10:18

Emmy Denton   Emmy Denton
Hi John, welcome to the group. I agree with Damon's comments. The cross hatching on the right and left sides has an elliptical shape. Did you have noise reduction turned on (just trying to rule things out)? Also did you edit this as a 16-bit or 8-bit file? JPEG artifacts with low quality? I would check the original raw file to see if the cross hatch is there. At least that will give you a direction to follow. Also I've had weird things happen with lens vibration compensation when using a tripod. If you figure it out let us know.   Posted: 04/13/2021 02:53:34

John Meiers   John Meiers
Usually have noise reduction on. Shot using tripod. Probably had the vibration switch on. Should be 16bit editing. Original raw file shows some very light wavy lines in a half moon shape in the sky from one side to the other. That is when it is in the library module. Develop module is clean after adjustments. May have exported from Library module instead of Develop module in LR Classic. Printed it out and it looks fine. I must have had something on that should have not been on. It was cold and windy in late December 2020. Was also a very popular place and was difficult to get photo without a bunch of people walking around.   Posted: 04/13/2021 14:18:10

Jane Pittenger   Jane Pittenger
Welcome to our group. I can see you will be a great addition. What a magical warm feeling these colored teepees lit from with in give. Most war memorials seem to be more serious. I think they give a sense of story that I like a lot. I like the sense of depth and the sunstar that somehow happened even with a wide aperture. It would be interesting to see with detail in the moon as suggested by Damon but I kind of like it distant and glowing. To me the horizon looks a bit tilted down to the left but I wouldn't want the teepee bottoms to be cut off by fixing it. I find the line of clouds a bit distracting. The smoke ? swirls above each teepee are delightful but together with the clouds makes me squint to try to figure it out. I agree re darkening the bright right horizon.   Posted: 04/13/2021 15:18:37

John Meiers   John Meiers
Hello Jane! The swirls above the Teepees are little strips of colored fabric/plastic. The wind was always blowing when I was there. Viewing hours of the Teepees was from about 6am to 10pm. After 10pm is when they shut off the lights.Very recently had my daughter, who uses photoshop, remove the background lights and put in a better version of the moon.   Posted: 04/13/2021 19:46:24


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