Michael Duke, QPSA  


The art fair by Michael Duke, QPSA

January 2020 - The art fair

January 2020 - Michael Duke, QPSA

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I captured this image at an arts fare in London. With this image, I got good results when I gave it my creative treatment. In the original colour version there are a lot of faults, which do not show up so much in mono. I may well be fishing on a duff image here, but my main concern is when trying to sharpen things I have ended up with a halo around the guy's head. Is there a way of over-coming this or do I have to just try a similar shot at the next opportunity using a lot more patience with pre-shoot camera set-ups?


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8 comments posted

Stephen Levitas   Stephen Levitas
Michael, I just can't get a good sense of organization and central subject on this one. It must have been an interesting visit for you, but I probably would have shot over the shoulder of the artist to include his painting. For me the best I can figure is to contrast the artist intent on his painting against the cafe people totally oblivious to him. Like this:   Posted: 01/05/2020 23:50:33
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Bob Benson   Bob Benson
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Hi Michael, as far as your question about the halos, it may be that you over compensated in sharpening? The color image does seem a little soft to start, and trying to compensate may lead to strong halos. Also, if you had applied some significant contrast with a contrast or clarity setting, this would emphasize the tonal variation in the wall behind the head. I do see a stronger halo in the woman (red) on the right by the pillar in the B&W version. For some reason, I see a lot more jpeg artifacts than I would expect to see in an image this size.   Posted: 01/06/2020 15:21:45

Lynne Hollingsworth   Lynne Hollingsworth
When sharpening is needed, I go into NIK software and use raw pre-sharpen. It seems to help prevent the halo effect. Of course it always helps to take more time in the set-up in the mindset that your shooting film. That always slows me down.

There are a lot of distractions in this image - I would have probably blurred the group on the right and brought down the white in the overhead lights and (what I'm assuming) is a plate in the front of the image.   Posted: 01/06/2020 18:45:03

Gloria Fine
Michael, I think your last sentence about pre-shoot analysis is spot on. I don't know whether it is my monitor or the photos but, they appear blurry to me. I really liked the feeling that you captured of the venue and the artist that you focused on.   Posted: 01/07/2020 08:20:30

Tom McCreary   Tom McCreary
Not sure why the image is not sharp. What were your camera settings? Stephen's efforts seem to help some with the composition. The white plate or whatever it is that is right below the artist really draws my eye, and should be toned down.   Posted: 01/09/2020 14:32:17

Michael Duke   Michael Duke
Dear all. You have come up with very good thoughts and tuned me into better thinking. I realize that the original shot IS a bit soft. Gloria - on looking, no it is not your monitor. I now realize that as you said my last sentence is correct. Luckily I will be going soon to another art session where I can catch a similar image (hopefully) and you have all got me ready and better prepared mentally to do better objectively. Thanks to all.   Posted: 01/09/2020 14:50:59

Diana Magor   Diana Magor
I'm not sure what lighting you were using. Was it just the general room light or did you try adding some fill-in flash? I'm not normally a flash fan but in this venue I think a diffused flash might have helped to extract the artist from all the distractions around him. I'm not sure what you were aiming for when you took it-an impression of the busyness of the fair with people all squashed together--both artists and visitors, or a portrait of the artist intent on his painting? I've seen some good flash shots recently where people have used diffused flash successfully so there aren't hard shadows behind them but which lighten the main subject matter. And yes, the plate needs something doing about it!   Posted: 01/27/2020 15:01:27

Jennifer Doerrie   Jennifer Doerrie
To my immense frustration, I, too, sometimes have issues with halos occurring when I sharpen my images. What order did you follow in your editing workflow? For example, do you sharpen before adding creative treatment(s) or after? I usually find it best to sharpen first. Also, do you edit/convert with Photoshop or something else? I know there are some reasonably short tutorials online about removing halos, but don't know which one(s) would be most useful to you since I'm not sure what program(s) you prefer. I also sometimes just remove them with the cloning tool, but that can be very tedious.

  Posted: 01/28/2020 00:03:12