Robert Schleif  

Rockbound by Robert Schleif

August 2019 - Rockbound

August 2019 - Robert Schleif


About the Image(s)

Taken with my S120 in Maine this summer. I have struggled with this, vacillating between color and B&W. In B&W I am bothered by the lack of distinction between the dry rock and the sea alongside and I've played with multiple variations of this. To help my development as a photographer, it is more helpful to hear what aspects of the image that you like and don't like rather than your overall thumbs up or thumbs down.

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10 comments posted

Tom Carnahan   Tom Carnahan
Very good sea scape in color. The story is a small section of a rugged rocky coast line with beautiful waves action beating the shoure line. B&W looses some of the dynamics of color but mounted in a large white matt on a large unclutterdd wall would isolate the print and would be great.   Posted: 08/03/2019 10:26:22

Dorinda Wills   Dorinda Wills
Robert, I spent a little time trying to rework the bw image. It seemed grainy and flat. First I took it into Topaz AI to reduce some of the noise. Then I played with the tone curves in attempt to bring more contrast. Finally I used a brush in LR to selectively brighten the waves with special emphasis on brightening the foamy "tips" of the waves. I used a brush to selectively lighten and darken areas of the rock as well. I''m not the best at post processing but am trying to learn to better do these steps.While my attempts are not perfect I hope they might give you some ideas about selectively dodging and burning areas of the image to create more depth.   Posted: 08/06/2019 14:28:59
Robert Schleif   Robert Schleif
I was curious about your comment on the noise, whose levels might have been misleading since the web images are only 1500 pixels wide and, in addition, are jpeg conversions from tif. Therefore, I went back to the original raw file (4,000 pixels wide) to make a non reduced B&W in 16-bit tif. Indeed, there is more noise in the shadows of the final B&W image than I would like for printing larger than 8 x 10. This was shot using an ISO of 320. While this yielded a realistic preview image on the camera, a Canon S-120, turning up the ISO generally reduces the available dynamic range in the image, and probably increases noise, and instead, I could have brightened the image in processing. The smarter action would have been to use my T5i camera with its 24 x 16 mm sensor (APS C) instead of the S-120 with its 7.6 x 5.7 mm sensor. The S-120 came out in 2013, and I've read that newer cameras are less noisy, presumably through improvements in sensor and software design. With this demonstration of the value of a large sensor in a recently released camera, in light of my liking of large prints, I'm wondering if I should opt for a new camera with a full frame sensor.   Posted: 08/09/2019 19:47:51

Dorinda Wills   Dorinda Wills
  Posted: 08/06/2019 20:22:55
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Robert Schleif   Robert Schleif
Thank you. That helps a lot. What you have done is pretty much what needs to be done to most B&W images--contain some pure white and some pure black, and be rather contrasty in between. I had refrained from doing this because of my memory of how gaudy the color version became when I goosed up its brightness and contrast. Actually, it is possible to reproduce your image from my original quite simply. In photoshop I think it is called "Curves adjustment" and use an S-shaped curve. This gives the full range of tonalities needed and the the contrast needed. Then the wet rocks can be lightened with a broad brush or using a mask.   Posted: 08/07/2019 19:50:18
Dorinda Wills   Dorinda Wills
Yes. You are right. Plus with black and white images the first thing you want to do is check the black and white points to get the best contrast.   Posted: 08/07/2019 21:35:54

Jessica Manelis   Jessica Manelis
I like Dorinda's version of the black and white image. You would need more contrast. Me personally, I like the color version better. I think the colors make it more of a dramatic scene. You should crop it in the same as the b & w one and see how that looks.   Posted: 08/10/2019 08:43:23

Jon Joyce   Jon Joyce
I agree with Jessica concerning retaining the great colors in your image. The color also provides the depth that you weakened with the b&w.   Posted: 08/10/2019 14:53:46

Robert Schleif   Robert Schleif
With the passage of time I am beginning to prefer color, but as Jessica suggests, with the crop of the B&W which I posted.   Posted: 08/10/2019 19:34:55
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Judy Merson   Judy Merson
Nice sharp capture. Great depth and contrast in your color version. Dorinda's crop and work helps the mono version which was too flat in your first mono   Posted: 08/11/2019 14:59:36